Comments on: Noni – But / Although

By: 佐藤 (Satō)

佐藤 (Satō) — Sat, 25 May 2013 00:07:59 +0000

はまとよし!
…So please assist me, would ‘Watashi wa nihonjim noni watashi wa nikkei desu’ be considered correct, or am I missing something?

(I am Japanese although I am Japanese diaspora.

ありがとう！

By: Awa

Awa — Sun, 07 Apr 2013 01:45:33 +0000

Hi, I’m working on translating a song, but a found a very strange phrase: 「僕なら掴んだ物はすべて…
離さないのに…」or “boku nara tsukanda mono wa subete…hanasanai noni…”
How does that sentence structure work? My guess was that it meant, “If the thing I grabbed hold of was everything…I still wouldn’t let go…” But that seems weird because “nara” is directly after “boku,” which makes it seem like the meaning should be more like, “if it were me…” But that is really hard to express in English and still be able to get the meaning of the rest of the phrase. Also, “noni” makes it seem like the meaning should be more like, “What I grabbed hold of is everything…even though I won’t let go…” And that just doesn’t make sense. In addition, the ellipses imply that this is a fragment, which makes it even harder to translate. Help?

By: Tony

Tony — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:26:36 +0000

Hi santosh,
Moratta is a normal form – past tense of morau. As such, you may use noni after the “ta”

By: santosh

santosh — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:17:15 +0000

On above explanation u said that
the verb before “noni”must be in
normal form but u have used (
Tegami o moratta noni) ,does this
mean that ” ta ” form of verb can be
Use before ” noni ” …

By: Jamin

Jamin — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:00:11 +0000

Sorry for the late reply!
Thanks, that cleared it up for me.
If it is past tense though, then would you use でも? Because it can’t be in the -て form if it’s in past tense. For example…
迷子だったでも悲しくなかった
(Even though she was lost, she wasn’t sad)

Also, is this right?
実花ちゃんは私の友達ですのに、なんだかうるさい
(Mika-chan is my friend but she’s a bit annoying)

By: Tony

Tony — Sun, 27 Nov 2011 02:57:03 +0000

でも is normally used in the beginning of a sentence
のに is used in between 2 sentences

どうでもいい is not the “でも”. in fact it is “で” and “も”. Just like　行ってもいい、行かなくてもいい、食べてもいい. Since “どう” has no -te form, “で” is added to it like “何でもいい、どちでもいい、何時でもいい”

In “背が高くないだって可愛いです”, でも cannot be used. You may use だって, けど

By: Jamin

Jamin — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 17:09:10 +0000

I’m not sure if you’ve discussed this yet, but I understand the meanings of のに、だって、でも、etc. But I don’t know how to differentiate them. When do I use which one?

どうでもいい
I know is literally “however is good” and be technically “I don’t care”.

背が高くないだって可愛いです
That’s basically Even though she’s short, she’s cute. Could I have used でも or のに instead?

質問がたくさんある、済みません！！ＯＴＬ

By: Tony

Tony — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:52:24 +0000

Hi, "Keredomo" also mean "But" but use in a different way. There are some examples here

By: zoe

zoe — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:47:50 +0000

but i need to ask , so how about keredomo…..

By: fluxam

fluxam — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:18:20 +0000

I had geard this in doramas and anime but had thought it a different pronunciation of nani.
I’m so glad you still post!